KZ ZST

[Fonzo]

5 godzin temu, bachankas napisał:

Ja zamówiłem 29 marca i nadal czekam, od miesiąca w WER Warszawa...

Ja też kiedyś czekałem tak długo z takim info z systemu i okazało się, że poczta nie dostarczyła mi powiadomienia, iż paczka czeka u celników na opłacenie cła i VATu. Dopiero jak poszedłem do pani z okienka w placówce PP to się o tym dowiedziałem. Może też spróbuj...

[Gość]

Ja też kiedyś czekałem tak długo z takim info z systemu i okazało się, że poczta nie dostarczyła mi powiadomienia, iż paczka czeka u celników na opłacenie cła i VATu. Dopiero jak poszedłem do pani z okienka w placówce PP to się o tym dowiedziałem. Może też spróbuj...

Reklamację złożyłem, zobaczymy czy będzie reakcja. W Austrii teraz jestem to średnio na pocztę znajdę xD

Wysłane z mojego XT1032 przy użyciu Tapatalka

[ilov3]

zasięg w tym kabelku ( w pełni naładowanym ) jakieś 3 może max 5m

[Starh]

Pierwsze opinie o zs5

My set comes today.
RMB 249 for KZ ZS5 + gold wire 
Here is a brief review.

outlook: bad, just a copy of Campfire but it is in plastic
wearing: comfortable, the set comes with 6 pairs of very comfortable earbuds

This is my personal feeling on KZ ZS5 + gold wire (open box, no burn in).

sound balance: very good. All ranges are even. No stress on any particular range. It is quite good for a multi driver headphone
high range: good. Many string instruments sound clearly, good resolution
mid range: good. Vocal is clear
low range: fair. A bit heavy but still solid

Overall it is far better than my previous set BD005

 

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My zs5 arrived yesterday, mids and trebles are good out of the box, i.e. close mids and good treble extension. Vocals sounds close to you as well. However the build quality left a lot to be desired, my left unit took a bit of force to be fully inserted with both stock and gold-plated cable. The fit is awkward as well, like fitting a box inside a sphere, and the units are large and stick out of my ears a bit so probably cannot be used lying down.
Overall, zs5 gives really good female vocals for me.
 

 

 

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bass is lighter than the k3 pro and memt x5 that I also owned.
 

 

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i was pretty shocked to hear male vocals didn't stand out when one dynamic was for mids, totqlly not what i expected
 

 

Edytowane 15 Maja 2017 przez Starh

[ilov3]

czyli nie zapowiadają się chyba zbyt dobrze?

[mykupyku]

nosz cholera a już miałem anulować Andromendę

[Jaro54]

18 minut temu, ilov3 napisał:

czyli nie zapowiadają się chyba zbyt dobrze?

Zależy co kto oczekuję od słuchawek. Wg moich preferencji jeśli piszą prawdę to będą bardzo porządne

[paratykus]

2 minuty temu, mykupyku napisał:

nosz cholera a już miałem anulować Andromendę

Wiem, że sobie jajca robisz ale w sumie to co Ci szkodzi wstrzymać się z Andromedą do czasu przesłuchania pariasów

[Superata]

Ja zamówiłem 5 - zobaczymy czy mi podejdą  

Jakby ktoś z Łodzi zamawiał kabelek chętnie przykleję się do drugiej sztuki. 

[Karbon315]

Po długich namysłach poczekam aż je dostaniecie i pojawią się recenzję. Może uda się w komisie upolować. 

 

Btw. ZST idą już ponad 8 dni z Holandii... Mam nadzieję, że jakimś cudem w piątek przyniesie mi je listonosz. 

[Starh]

Poczekam jeszcze 1-2 dni na opinie z zagranicznych for. Jeśli będą tak nieprzychylne to anuluje zamowienie i pójdzie refund.

 

Aktualnie nie wygląda to jakoś szałowo.

Edytowane 16 Maja 2017 przez Starh

[Sir Nick]

No bez przesady, nie wiadomo kto z jakim "zestawem" uszu, nie wiadomo na czym odsluchal 5 minut a Wy wyciagacie jakies wnioski? Cierpliwosci rodacy! ??

 

Na Taobao jest sporo opinii o ZS5 i jak sie siermiężnie przeloży się je przez google tlumacza to sa one pozytywne.

Edytowane 16 Maja 2017 przez Sir Nick

[Weird_O]

Dnia 13.05.2017 o 13:20, paratykus napisał:

 

Dokładnie, dajmy się wygrzać dynamikom 

[tomasznowak244]

Opiniami nie ma co się sugerować. Jakby to był zakup za parę tysięcy pln, to bym czytał różne opinie przed zakupem , a potem też mógłbym się zawieść. W tych pieniądzach co kosztują te słuchawki, to wątpię żebym coś lepszego kupił.

Wysłane z mojego Redmi 3 przy użyciu Tapatalka

[lolomanolo]

Nawet jak beda graly jak nawieksze g... to za stowe bede mial tanie sluchawki do biegania, tyrania na silce etc. i jeszcze dwa dodatkowe kabelki do zst, wiec placzu nie bedzie.

[Starh]

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ZS5 is in da house! Quick review:
VERY NICE cardboard box that's nicely shrink wrapped. Open the flap and there's 2 magnetic clasps to keep the flap in place like a high end product packaging. The manual inside the box has both english and chinese, but the english is the usual somewhat dodgy translation...silica gel ear tips (silicone tips), memory silk (memory wire) lol someone used google translate too much...but at least the paper is the nice glossy kind, not some cheap recycled paper.
Inside the box as you've seen in the pictures there are now 2 full sets of S M L tips (12 tips total) that's being held by a metal plate with cutouts. 1 set is grey silicone, almost like the spare ones that came with the ZS3. The other set are starlines but now they're black instead of the grey that came with the ZST. The grey silicone ones are slightly softer than the starlines (as others have mentioned before) so most people should be able to find a pair that fits. Medium starline fits me well, I use that with my ZST too.

Stock cable is the grey green one just like the ZS3, only it comes pre-plugged now. Memory wire is there, I will cut this off later, but unlike the ZST there's no plastic weight on the wire to hold it down...let's see how it goes.
I can confirm inline volume buttons work on BOTH my xiaomi mi5 android phone AND my ipad! Wow KZ actually spent the money to get the chip that works for both...for Chi-Fi I only know the 1more triple driver has this ios+android chip for volume control, and that costs 4x the ZS5. The mic/control housing and the buttons are all metal, much nicer than the plastic on the ZS3/ZST. Buttons are tight and press down with a solid click. I'm very impressed.

Earbud itself is plastic, nothing to write home about. There's a bit of leftover adhesive and a small scratch on mine already...but oh well I'm not returning it just for that.
I do like the blue color and it looks awesome with the gold upgrade cable. They do stick out from my ear more than the ZST, and I find it slightly less comfy than either ZST or ZS3, perhaps due to the more angular edges.

Sound. Now I haven't done any A-B testing yet but initial impressions are very positive. Treble is clear and energetic without being fatiguing, which I think is a bit better than ZST (bear in mind I'm one of those who don't find ZST treble that fatiguing). Mids are rich and both male and female vocals are nice, perhaps a touch warmer than the ZST. Bass is probably between ZST and ZS3 i.e. presence is definitely felt but not overly booming. Soundstage is decently wide, maybe a tad wider than ZST, and feels more circular vs the oval on the ZST. Resolution is very good, with good 3D spatial separation with instruments. I will reserve my final judgement until more testing is done, but out of the box I am very happy with the ZS5, I think it's almost like a melding of the ZS3 bass presence with the ZST clarity, with some additional resolution and spatial separation thrown in!

Gold upgrade wire looks very nice, quality to be tested later. It now comes in a nice paper box that's also shrink wrapped, definitely better than just throwing it into a free carrying case...

All in all, I'm very impressed with how much KZ has improved in packaging and build quality (at least with the metal inline control, but still at the same level for the earbud itself at least on the outside). I'll post my final thoughts after doing some more testing, and I'm definitely looking forward to the ZSR when/if it comes out...!

 

Wygląda na hybryde zs3 z ZST.

To z Head fi  

Ogólnie pisze, że grają lepiej od zst.

Edytowane 16 Maja 2017 przez Starh

[Jaro54]

8 minut temu, Starh napisał:

Wygląda na hybryde zs3 z ZST.

I co takie złe opinie @Starh?

[Starh]

No trochę mnie to uspokoiło.

[Karbon315]

Ja się boję o ergonomię. Dźwięk może być super ale mogą nie pasować do ucha, co jest u mnie bardzo możliwe. 

[Starh]

Porównania

TLDR

- lżejszy bas niż w zst

- lepsza separcja

- dużo większa scena

- mocniejszy i bardziej muzykalny bas

- naturalniejsze wokale

- lepsze górne partie dźwięku

- mniejszy komfort noszenia niż zst

 

Oczywiście koleś opisuje niewygrzane słuchawki.

 

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Did some A-B testing on HDTracks headphone test disc flac files with KZ ZS5 vs ZST vs UE Triplefi10s shootout (my currently available IEMs) and here are my thoughts:

Sensitivity. TF10s is most sensitive and by a fair margin, while the ZST is slightly more sensitive then ZS5. I guess more DDs take more power to drive. This might also mean potentially more scalability with amping for the ZS5?

Soundstage and resolution. Listened to some jazz and the immediate difference is that with the ZS5 I feel like I'm sitting in a bigger room than the ZST. The TF10s meanwhile are very intimate, but provides more clarity and separation between instruments. There's almost an airy feel to the ZS5 vs TF10s that is similar to going from closed vs open back headphones. ZS5 has better resolution and much better separation than the ZST as mentioned in my previous post. The additional DD and BA indeed are doing their job.

Bass wise, TF10s is powerful and tight (well known). ZST and ZS5 are actually not that far apart (this may change with burn in, as my ZST is well used). ZST can rumble, but ZS5 rumbles with more separation, so the ZST bass is almost a little muddy in comparison. Neither are basshead level, but I do like the slightly stronger and more musical bass on the ZS5. I'm hoping more burn-in will loosen it up further, as the bass can sometimes sound a little tight on the ZS5 right now.

Mids the ZST and ZS5 are somewhat similar, very natural sounding for both male and female vocals. Not sure if the freq curve is biasing me, but I do get a feel there's less of a peak in mids for ZS5, more neutral sounding.
Meanwhile I've always felt TF10s were a bit too warm for female vocal dominant tracks, and this bears out here. 

Treble the ZST and ZS5 are again similar, although the ZS5 does provides more detail than the ZST in the highs. High cymbals sound clearer on the ZS5 than ZST. But the main thing is that there's a track with female vocals S sounds that I can always hear some sibilance on the ZST, but this is GONE on the ZS5! For those who feel ZST was too bright/sibilant I think the ZS5 may be the ticket for you. 

Overall the TF10s is quite a different animal altogether so I won't go into too much further detail. Between the ZST and ZS5, personally I feel the ZS5 improves alot on the ZST by getting rid of the sibilance, strengthening the bass and with more drivers we get better resolution and separation. Adding a wider airy soundstage with better spatial separation is just more icing on the cake.

I don't have my ZS3 anymore, but from memory the ZS5 should be closer to the ZST than the ZS3, which makes sense from a hardware perspective as well.
I tried the gold cable as well, really can't hear much of a difference (same experience with my ZST and ZS3 with the stock vs silver cable). It feels nicer than the stock, just like the silver one, but I need my mic and volume controls for daily commuting use.

Things I don't like about ZS5
- Hard angular edge design of the earbud makes it less comfy even during in my short hearing session. This does not bode well for longer listening (will try on my commute tomorrow)
- The nozzle on the ZS5 is a straight tube, while ZST has a notch. This means the tips fall off slightly more easily on the ZS5 vs ZST. With my A-B testing, there was indeed 1 time that the eartip was left in my ear when I pulled the ZS5 out
- Memory wire on both the stock and gold cables, although this is easily modded by cutting the wire out

Anyway all in all I like the ZS5 quite alot! I didn't think it was possible at this price point but the ZS5 indeed can give a performance at like 90% of TF10s level of IEMs. Add in the inline mic with volume buttons that work with ios and android and I am now one happy head-fier
 

 

Edytowane 16 Maja 2017 przez Starh

[Weird_O]

Udało Wam się wcisnąć ten srebrny kabelek od ZST do ZS3? Siłuję się i za cholerę nie chce wejść...

[mykupyku]

trzeba posmarować masłem

[Arturos1967]

9 minut temu, mykupyku napisał:

trzeba posmarować masłem

 

A tu jest instrukcja :

 

http://www.filmweb.pl/film/Ostatnie+tango+w+Paryżu-1972-8441

[Weird_O]

Próbowałem Panowie, nic z tego, ani od tyłu ani od przodu, z masłem bez masła, dalej nic. Ale już ogarnąłem, że do ZS3 jest po prostu inny kabel, w sensie też srebrny ale z prostym wtykiem ;/

Tak czy siak dobrze, że tu zawsze można liczyć na fachową pomoc 

[Compton]

Od czego jest forum?

Żeby sobie pomagać przecież, nie?